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[00:30:40] <mroe> !super_basic
[00:30:40] <knoba> mroe: "super_basic" : Setting up an 'Email Server' has many moving parts. If you don't understand what you are doing, start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail#Operation_overview
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[11:07:21] <iQuestion> Hello
[11:08:35] <iQuestion> i'm having a postfix server running and i was wondering what is the best way i can limit outgoing spam from a client computer if he gets a virus?
[11:10:14] <UQlev> iQuestion: suspend his account until his PC is cured
[11:12:00] <iQuestion> UQlev: his account is suspended but i was wondering if there is a way i can limit how much spam someone gets to send when they get a virus
[11:12:54] <iQuestion> just in case someone else will get a virus and send spam, cause we got blacklisted all arround because his account send out that many mails
[11:13:43] <sep> iQuestion, if you can live with the restrictions... something like  smtpd_sender_login_maps, and reject_sender_login_mismatch ;
[11:13:58] <sep> will enforce that the sender have to be valid. (the virus can not fake senders)
[11:15:07] <sep> so when someone spams it will have to happen on a valid account from your system, and the user on that account should notice fairly quickly something is wrong. (he will get bounces on email he did not send)
[11:15:08] <UQlev> iQuestion: this might be of your interest http://www.postfix.org/TUNING_README.html
[11:15:24] <sep> also some kind of throtteling /policy to limit the volume
[11:16:13] <sep> also have alerts on your mailq. it will normaly grow to abnormal size when someone spams.
[11:19:07] <UQlev> iQuestion: to get blacklisted your server do not need to send big number of spam. So rate limit may not protect you from getting black-listed
[11:20:12] <sep> iQuestion, you will get blacklisted anyway ofcourse. you have to focus on early detection.
[11:20:15] <UQlev> iQuestion: you should monitor your server statistics at least daily especially for bounces
[11:20:42] <iQuestion> yes the mailserver is currently running for about 8000 customers... So i have to figure out a way to make some good restrictions without making them unable to send their mails
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[11:22:29] <UQlev> iQuestion: if you will be liberal to spammers then all your users will suffer a lot
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[11:24:50] <sep> iQuestion,  smtpd_sender_login_maps, and reject_sender_login_mismatch, to avoid users  faking senders sounds like a good solution to me. spammy sender will get all bounces himself. = early detection. and you can probably monitor the amount of bounces generated/recived
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