[00:03:31] <CIA-92> nieder * dists/10.4/unstable/main/finkinfo/kde/sim.info:
[00:03:31] <CIA-92> build fixes
[00:03:31] <CIA-92> Actually list private dylib, not just add a comment saying it's there
[00:03:31] <CIA-92> Still puts %b in .la files
[00:12:43] <CIA-92> nieder * dists/10.4/unstable/main/finkinfo/kde/sim.info: private dylibs need fink BDep
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[00:16:12] <CIA-92> nieder * dists/10.4/ (2 files in 2 dirs): to stable with fixes
[00:21:30] <CIA-92> nieder * dists/10.4/unstable/main/finkinfo/kde/ (kasablanca.info kuftp.info): if using system-openssl-dev flags, must BDep it
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[01:02:54] <CIA-92> fangism * experimental/fangism/finkinfo/npapi-sdk.info:
[01:02:54] <CIA-92> Mozilla plug-ins API headers only, validated on powerpc-darwin8
[01:02:54] <CIA-92> I also provide a npapi-sdk.pc pkgconfig file.
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[02:07:49] <CIA-92> fangism * experimental/fangism/finkinfo/libreoffice.info:
[02:07:49] <CIA-92> bdep += npapi-sdk, sane-backends-dev (validated)
[02:07:50] <CIA-92> now needs ICU >= 4.0
[02:14:47] <fangism> http://paste.lisp.org/display/127902 -- libreoffce configure progress (powerpc-darwin8)... there's hope?
[02:35:28] <CIA-92> fangism * dists/10.4/stable/main/finkinfo/ (2 files in 2 dirs): bump to libjpeg8, approved by None maintainer, validated on powerpc-darwin8
[02:36:14] <fangism> ^ was sane-backends.info
[02:36:22] <akh> crazy
[02:38:53] <fangism> actually, looking at updating to sane-backends 1.0.22, see if it's trivial.  current %v is from 2008.  No maintainer.
[03:02:31] <akh> ah
[03:03:35] <CIA-92> alexkhansen * dists/10.7/stable/main/finkinfo/database/mysql-unified.info: Why did maintainers use /Developer/usr/bin, anyway?
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[03:57:49] <CIA-92> dmacks * dists/10.7/stable/main/finkinfo/graphics/ (inkscape.info inkscape.patch): new version
[04:06:46] <CIA-92> fangism * dists/10.4/stable/main/finkinfo/10.4-EOL/graphics/ (libgegl0.0.0-shlibs.info libbabl0.0.0-shlibs.info): sync. w/ 10.!4/stable, validated on powerpc-darwin8
[04:15:21] <CIA-92> nieder * dists/10.4/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
[04:15:21] <CIA-92> to stable with many build fixes
[04:15:21] <CIA-92> And why weren't the private dylibs actually listed rather than just adding a comment that they were private?
[04:17:27] <CIA-92> fangism * dists/10.4/stable/main/finkinfo/10.4-EOL/graphics/bwidget.info: sync. w/ 10.!4/stable, validated on powerpc-darwin8
[04:18:40] <CIA-92> fangism * dists/10.4/unstable/main/finkinfo/10.4-EOL/graphics/bwidget.info: relocated to stable
[04:29:49] <CIA-92> fangism * dists/10.4/stable/main/finkinfo/10.4-EOL/graphics/ (cadubi.info cadubi.patch): sync. w/ 10.!4/stable, validated on powerpc-darwin8
[04:30:43] <CIA-92> fangism * dists/10.4/unstable/main/finkinfo/10.4-EOL/graphics/ (cadubi.info cadubi.patch): relocated to stable
[04:34:20] <CIA-92> dmacks * dists/10.4/stable/main/finkinfo/graphics/ (inkscape.info inkscape.patch): new version
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[04:48:20] <CIA-92> fangism * dists/10.4/stable/main/finkinfo/10.4-EOL/graphics/cal3d.info: sync. w/ 10.!4/stable, validated on powerpc-darwin8
[04:49:28] <CIA-92> fangism * dists/10.4/unstable/main/finkinfo/10.4-EOL/graphics/cal3d.info: relocated to stable
[05:08:43] <CIA-92> fangism * dists/10.4/stable/main/finkinfo/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
[05:08:43] <CIA-92> upstream update to 1.0.22, more scanner back-ends, validated on powerpc-darwin8
[05:08:43] <CIA-92> still no maintainer
[05:13:20] <fangism> ^ sane-backends.info (1.0.22)
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[06:16:21] <CIA-92> fangism * experimental/fangism/finkinfo/libicu48-dev.info: experimental, libicu (ICU) 4.8.1.1 from upstream
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[07:48:14] <C-Otto> hi again
[07:49:06] <C-Otto> gecko2, RangerRick: any news on the server problems? this has been going on for more than week now I think and I still got no reply on that...
[07:59:22] <dmacks_away> C-Otto: I don't actually know any details or specific services involved, except that gecko2 restarted...something...a week or so ago, which fixed some other server processes that had ceased working.
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[08:44:47] <jack> C-Otto: gecko2 ist deutscher, das k?nnte die sache evtl. beschleunigen
[08:45:58] <C-Otto> jack: ich weiß :)
[08:46:19] <C-Otto> dmacks_away: that did not help with my problem, apparently
[08:55:22] <CIA-92> dmacks * dists/10.4/ (2 files in 2 dirs): cgraph to stable; spawn %N-shlibs splitoff for Shared Library standard layout
[08:56:57] <CIA-92> dmacks * dists/10.4/stable/main/finkinfo/sci/cgraph.info: desc tweak (it's a real library not pile of sourcecode)--$maintainer okayed this and -shlibs fixies
[08:58:30] <CIA-92> dmacks * dists/10.4/ (2 files in 2 dirs): chooch to stable with upgrade to new cgraph package layout
[09:17:28] <CIA-92> dmacks * dists/10.4/ (2 files in 2 dirs): latest libgaul0 to stable
[09:18:16] <jack> libgaul? sounds....french
[09:19:04] <CIA-92> dmacks * dists/10.4/ (2 files in 2 dirs): latest minfx-pyXX to stable
[09:19:16] <jack> but ok, "gallium" was discovered by a german, iirc
[09:19:36] <jack> !lart misleading_names
[09:19:37] * pinson rm -rf's misleading_names
[09:25:37] <CIA-92> dmacks * dists/10.4/ (6 files in 2 dirs): latest gmt* to stable
[09:25:52] <CIA-92> dmacks * dists/10.4/ (20 files in 2 dirs): bunch of stuff to stable
[10:45:40] <CIA-92> dmacks * dists/10.4/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
[10:45:40] <CIA-92> gretl to stable, with several fixes for build ordering (pre-existing -dev and
[10:45:41] <CIA-92> anyway; NB: not touching some likely loooong-obsolete .pc cleanups (dating
[10:45:41] <CIA-92> fromwhen fink had libdl)
[10:49:41] <jack> wow
[10:49:57] <dmacks_away> yeah
[10:50:00] <jack> that's like 5 years or more
[10:50:36] <jack> maybe even previous-millenium :)
[10:51:43] <dmacks_away> In 10.3, dropped in 10.4T
[10:52:38] <C-Otto> gecko2, RangerRick: please just query me as soon as you have time to react. i'd love to have some mail contact address, too
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[11:09:13] <CIA-92> dmacks * dists/10.4/ (2 files in 2 dirs): mothur-mpi to stable, with fix for self-genrated COPYING...obviously untested, as it was an endless loop that I killed after 500MB generated
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[11:52:30] <jack> mothur? was my fault, right?
[12:06:25] <CIA-92> dmacks * dists/10.4/unstable/main/finkinfo/sci/numarray-py.patch: nuke orphan .patch
[12:16:27] <CIA-92> dmacks * dists/10.4/ (2 files in 2 dirs): prover9 to stable (hates -jN)
[12:17:46] <CIA-92> dmacks * dists/10.4/ (14 files in 2 dirs): some stuff to stable
[12:18:47] <CIA-92> dmacks * dists/10.4/ (4 files in 2 dirs): porta to stable
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[12:53:51] <Snaggle> dmacks_away: /me forgot to deal with the existing mothur-mpi loop after fixing the general craptacularity that was the rest of the build.  Thanks.
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[13:18:08] <CIA-92> fangism * experimental/fangism/finkinfo/tenfourfox10.info: upstream update 10.0.2
[13:19:04] <CIA-92> fangism * dists/10.4/stable/main/finkinfo/ (net/tenfourfox10.info 10.4-EOL/net/tenfourfox10.info): upstream update 10.0.2, validated on powerpc-darwin8
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[14:21:20] <CIA-92> nieder * dists/10.4/ (2 files in 2 dirs): ktoblzcheck to stable
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[15:11:51] <KunTheCronos> I'm having a problem with libiconv.2.dylib: dyld: lazy symbol binding failed: Symbol not found: _libiconv_open
[15:11:51] <KunTheCronos>   Referenced from: /sw/lib/libintl.3.dylib
[15:11:51] <KunTheCronos>   Expected in: /usr/lib/libiconv.2.dylib
[15:12:08] <KunTheCronos> anyone knows a workarround?
[15:12:25] <KunTheCronos> workaround*
[15:13:47] <KunTheCronos> I've found some people with this problem (bu different referenced lib), but no solutions
[15:15:34] <KunTheCronos> when I nm libiconv.2.dylib
[15:15:35] <KunTheCronos> 0000000000006323 t _ksc5601_wctomb
[15:15:35] <KunTheCronos> 000000000001597c T _libiconv_relocate
[15:15:35] <KunTheCronos> 0000000000015972 T _libiconv_set_relocation_prefix
[15:15:35] <KunTheCronos> 0000000000015473 T _locale_charset
[15:15:35] <KunTheCronos> 00000000000ec680 s _mac_arabic_2uni
[15:16:09] <KunTheCronos> there isn't _libiconv_open
[15:16:56] <KunTheCronos> do I need to get and compile a new version of libiconv?
[15:23:41] <jack> uhm
[15:24:15] <jack> just be aware that fink's libiconv is different from apple's
[15:24:49] <jack> you tried to use the apple one
[15:25:11] <jack> but the symbols you need are only in fink's
[15:32:58] <danielj> Yup.
[15:33:45] <jack> morning danielj
[15:34:04] <danielj> Whatever you're building needs to have -liconv added to the linker command. Probably adding -liconv to LDFLAGS will be enough.
[15:34:14] <danielj> Morning.
[15:34:25] <jack> i ran into that insufficient-libiconv issue already too
[15:34:40] <jack> sucks to feel helpless there
[15:35:23] <jack> KunTheCronos: use -L/sw/lib -liconv
[15:35:44] <jack> or you'll be where you were already ;)
[15:36:39] <dmacks_away> It's usually when the source overrides iconv.h's prototypes, or else an incorrect -I vs -L ordering (resulting in, for example, comiling with apple's iconv.h but fink's libiconv.dylib)--each is self-consistent but not intermixable.
[15:36:58] <jack> exactly
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[15:38:19] <jack> if there's no -L, you have only /usr/lib
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[15:40:32] <jack> tons of asaris
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[15:40:50] <jack> from different connections?
[15:40:58] <jack> miracle
[15:41:06] <KunTheCronos> Hi all, thanks for the solutions, but this error occured when I run "sudo fink selfupdate"
[15:41:46] <jack> so? must have been some sloppy maintainer
[15:42:22] <jack> check which package fink was gnawing on when the error occurred
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[15:45:29] <danielj> Yeah, we need to know which package is failing if we are going to fix it. :)
[15:47:17] <KunTheCronos> !paste The following package will be installed or updated:
[15:47:17] <KunTheCronos>  fink
[15:47:17] <KunTheCronos> Setting runtime build-lock...
[15:47:17] <KunTheCronos> dpkg-deb -b /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-fink-0.32.3-51 /sw/src/fink.build
[15:47:17] <KunTheCronos> dyld: lazy symbol binding failed: Symbol not found: _libiconv_open
[15:47:17] <KunTheCronos>   Referenced from: /sw/lib/libintl.3.dylib
[15:47:17] <KunTheCronos>   Expected in: /usr/lib/libiconv.2.dylib
[15:47:17] <jack> KunTheCronos: fink is smart enough to give you a maintainer name+email address upon failure
[15:47:17] <pinson> KunTheCronos: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[15:47:18] <KunTheCronos> dyld: Symbol not found: _libiconv_open
[15:47:19] <KunTheCronos>   Referenced from: /sw/lib/libintl.3.dylib
[15:47:19] <KunTheCronos>   Expected in: /usr/lib/libiconv.2.dylib
[15:47:20] <KunTheCronos> ### execution of dpkg-deb failed, exit code 5
[15:47:21] <KunTheCronos> Failed: can't create package fink-buildlock-fink-0.32.3-51
[15:47:28] <jack> KunTheCronos: fink is smart enough to give you a maintainer name+email address upon failure
[15:47:35] <jack> right at the end
[15:48:10] <jack> but ok, this isn't the usual build error
[15:49:03] <jack> danielj: now how can we get a proper libiconv dylib file on this man's mac?
[15:49:12] <jack> difficult :P
[15:50:56] <danielj> It seems that dpkg itself is the problem. That's?weird.
[15:51:02] <jack> yup
[15:51:24] <KunTheCronos> :S
[15:51:30] <jack> needs libiconv, that's natural
[15:51:45] <danielj> otool -L /sw/bin/dpkg-deb
[15:51:55] <danielj> That'll show what it was linked to.
[15:52:02] <jack> but how did the dylib file get lost?
[15:52:24] <danielj> I don't know.
[15:52:31] <KunTheCronos> the file is not lost? just not the right "version"
[15:52:47] <KunTheCronos> the file is in the right path
[15:53:00] <danielj> Right, but the question is why is dpkg-deb trying to use the wrong libiconv.
[15:53:02] <jack> yeah, i mean /sw/lib/libiconv.dylib
[15:53:20] <jack> that seems to have vanished
[15:54:05] <danielj> Ooh, or libgettext3 built wrong.
[15:54:26] <jack> might be, yeah
[15:54:31] <danielj> It's /sw/lib/libintl.3.dylib that's trying to use /usr/lib/libiconv.2.dylib.
[15:54:48] <jack> KunTheCronos: what does otool -L say?
[15:55:01] <danielj> KunTheCronos: Try running otool -L /sw/lib/libintl.3.dylib
[15:55:48] <jack> i'd install libgettext8
[15:56:02] <jack> and rebuild the dpkg shit
[15:56:06] <danielj> No, dpkg depends on libgettext3.
[15:56:13] <jack> still?
[15:56:16] <jack> oO
[15:56:24] <KunTheCronos> _/sw/lib/libintl.3.dylib:
[15:56:25] <KunTheCronos> 	_/sw/lib/libintl.3.dylib (compatibility version 8.0.0, current version 8.3.0)
[15:56:25] <KunTheCronos> 	_/sw/lib/libiconv.2.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current version 7.0.0)
[15:56:25] <KunTheCronos> 	_/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 125.2.0)
[15:56:25] <KunTheCronos> 	_/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation (compatibility version 150.0.0, current version 550.29.0)
[15:56:27] <danielj> Yes, because it's Essential.
[15:56:31] <KunTheCronos> (sorry for _)
[15:56:37] <jack> dang, ok
[15:56:52] <danielj> Ok, that's right.
[15:57:11] <jack> KunTheCronos: looks 100% proper
[15:57:36] <KunTheCronos> almost? :S
[15:58:29] <KunTheCronos> ls -l /sw/lib/libiconv.*
[15:58:29] <KunTheCronos> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  admin       20 22 Set  2010 /sw/lib/libiconv.2.dylib -> libiconv.2.4.0.dylib
[15:58:29] <KunTheCronos> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  admin       20 22 Set  2010 /sw/lib/libiconv.dylib -> libiconv.2.4.0.dylib
[15:58:53] <KunTheCronos> the library is in the right place too
[15:58:55] <jack> shrug :)
[15:58:57] <danielj> Maybe try "fink rebuild libgettext3-dev" and then "fink rebuild dpkg"
[15:59:15] <danielj> Something went wonky on your system.
[15:59:26] <KunTheCronos> why libgettext3?
[15:59:43] <danielj> That's what provides libintl.dylib.
[16:00:00] <danielj> libintl.3.dylib to be precise.
[16:00:23] <KunTheCronos> oh, k thanks
[16:00:53] <KunTheCronos> :S
[16:00:53] <KunTheCronos> The following package will be rebuilt:
[16:00:54] <KunTheCronos>  libgettext3-dev
[16:00:54] <KunTheCronos> Setting runtime build-lock...
[16:00:54] <KunTheCronos> dpkg-deb -b /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-libgettext3-shlibs-0.14.5-4 /sw/src/fink.build
[16:00:54] <KunTheCronos> dyld: lazy symbol binding failed: Symbol not found: _libiconv_open
[16:00:54] <KunTheCronos>   Referenced from: /sw/lib/libintl.3.dylib
[16:00:54] <KunTheCronos>   Expected in: /usr/lib/libiconv.2.dylib
[16:00:55] <KunTheCronos> dyld: Symbol not found: _libiconv_open
[16:00:56] <KunTheCronos>   Referenced from: /sw/lib/libintl.3.dylib
[16:00:56] <KunTheCronos>   Expected in: /usr/lib/libiconv.2.dylib
[16:00:57] <KunTheCronos> ### execution of dpkg-deb failed, exit code 5
[16:00:58] <KunTheCronos> Failed: can't create package fink-buildlock-libgettext3-shlibs-0.14.5-4
[16:01:11] <danielj> The linkage is screwed up somewhere, but those packages are used be every fink user and no one else has reported a problem so something is off on your system.
[16:01:25] <jack> yeah shit, you need dpkg-deb to work
[16:01:36] <danielj> Oh yeah, dpkg doesn't work.
[16:01:51] <CIA-92> nieder * dists/10.4/ (16 files in 2 dirs): to stable with numerous fixes
[16:02:07] <jack> can't solve this problem the fink way
[16:02:41] <danielj> What do you get from "fink --version | head -3"?
[16:02:57] <KunTheCronos> Package manager version: 0.29.10
[16:02:57] <KunTheCronos> Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Wed Feb 22 14:54:14 2012, 10.6, x86_64
[16:03:25] <danielj> 0.29.10 is very old.
[16:04:05] <danielj> Current stable fink is 0.32.2.
[16:04:38] <danielj> Did you recently update to 10.6 and are using an old fink installation?
[16:04:51] <KunTheCronos> nop.
[16:05:37] <KunTheCronos> i installed fink some time ago (as you can see), but this mac already came with this os
[16:06:10] <danielj> When was the last time you used this fink?
[16:06:32] <danielj> Because with dpkg borked nothing is going to work right.
[16:07:06] <danielj> I don't know what happened, but it looks like you'll need to start over with a fresh fink installation.
[16:07:31] <KunTheCronos> I think that will not be a problem (I hope...)
[16:07:34] <danielj> Without dpkg you can't even begin to fix things. :(
[16:07:38] <jack> yup. deep mess you're in.
[16:07:45] <KunTheCronos> :S
[16:08:06] <KunTheCronos> what is the worst think could happen?
[16:08:12] <danielj> Rename /sw to something else and download and install the latest fink tarball.
[16:08:15] <KunTheCronos> removing fink, i mean
[16:08:48] <danielj> Just that you'll have to rebuild any packages you use. No permanent damage.
[16:09:09] <danielj> That's why fink is self-contained in /sw.
[16:09:48] <KunTheCronos> oh, ok then. I will try that, thanks for the help
[16:10:04] <jack> np, you're welcome
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[16:49:56] <KunTheCronos> To "close": problem "solved" with a new installation. Thank you all.
[16:50:09] <jack> :)
[16:51:01] <jack> "help, i fucked up my dpkg" usually doesn't bring you lots of advice here
[16:51:26] <jack> since almost everthing a finker suggests calls dpkg first
[16:51:40] <jack> evil trap ;)
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[17:21:30] <jack> dmacks: how about an "emergency rescue" pack
[17:21:46] <jack> for seriously-stuck users?
[17:22:14] <jack> (check channel log to see what i mean)
[17:23:22] <dmacks> There's no possible way to account for all the ways a user could hose his system (intentionally or not), so there's definitely no way to rescue the general case.
[17:23:40] <jack> true of course
[17:24:07] <jack> but we could provide a few basics, as binaries
[17:24:21] <jack> like dpkg, gettext, libiconv
[17:24:39] <dmacks> No. There are an infinite ways to do even simple breakage, and there's obviously always the same "manually d/l .deb and extract it manually."
[17:24:56] <jack> mmh :)
[17:25:34] <dmacks> You're proposing a system that is easily as fragile as fink itself, and once a machine is wacky you are proposing doing even wackier things *as a system* to fix it. Just no.
[17:26:29] <dmacks> (but again, manually d/l and extract a .deb's files is an "easy" direct fix, or would be if we had a .deb repo)
[17:26:43] <jack> ok. the advice we ended up in this case was "wipe /sw, start a new fink from scratch"
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[17:27:11] <jack> since not even dpkg-deb wanted to work anymore
[17:27:18] <jack> hey vasi :)
[17:27:20] <dmacks> Obviously that would work (assuming $USER doesn't have env vars that are actually at the root of the problem)
[17:27:24] <dmacks> vasi's alive!
[17:27:28] <vasi> hi jack, dmacks
[17:27:36] <vasi> hehe long time :)
[17:27:44] <jack> indeed :p
[17:28:29] <KunTheCronos> the "emergency rescue" isn't a reinstallation? I think the difficult part in my problem was to realize that
[17:29:00] <jack> would result with the same fresh fink
[17:29:51] <dmacks> KunTheCronos: the error means somehow the linker and the linkee are not consistent with each other. So one solution would be to download  and replace (without using dpkg) one or the other (or both obviously) of those files from a known-good source.
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[17:30:22] <jack> wb vasi
[17:30:31] <jack> need some gluons?
[17:30:46] <dmacks> But who-knows what else or how things have gotten into that state, or what other binaries are also mismatched against...whatever. So start-fresh with a new install avoids that.
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[18:30:26] <KunTheCronos> @dmacks I agree with you (that was my first approach) but the problem was to get the correct files. It was way to easy to reinstall (unfortunately because now I don't know where was the problem)
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[18:48:44] <CIA-92> nieder * dists/10.4/unstable/main/finkinfo/kde/kynaptic.info: round 1 of build fixes, more to come
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